I washed my hair Tuesday morning and decided that I wanted to do something different than my usual twist out & do a "braid out" instead. Umm huge fail! It was not defined at all. Huge, puffy and not wavy-- but i LOVED it. After I was outside and my hair soaked up the humid Texas air, It became a nice fro :) I like it. So if you want a nice fro try the braid out.. More defined curly/wavy hair- twist outs. Next I guess I can try the bantu knot out.